", "The OD2 and to some degree the OD3 uses HRM style gain staging with a Plexi PI and power amp. Well to all those guys who bash Mesa amps, they have their own factory. We will also explore the top queries and questions that we have come across, during our research, concerning Friedman Amps before finishing with our final thoughts. ", "Depth works by varying the negative feedback at low frequencies. ", "My settings for a "typical" Plexi tone are Bass: 2, Mid: 8, Treble 7.5. ", "The real amp is a nasty thing. ", (Boston/Rockman sound) "Plexi Jump. AC-30's are very sensitive to the tube type and part tolerances. It uses a inverting summing amp to sum the Normal and Bass inputs. The real amp has a fixed, passive tone stack with an active 4-band EQ. There are topology differences and the amps don't sound the same. Dave has been building, modding and repairing amplifiers for many of the worlds biggest stars for the past 25 years. This is not exposed to the user though (there's a hidden shared/split switch). When it comes to finding the best Friedman amps it can be challenging to determine whether its worth looking at high-end Friedman Amps or if a lower-priced amp would be sufficient for you. Bias trem works by modulating the power tube grid bias. ", "This model is my interpretation of the ideal modern metal tone. Copyright 2022 Friedman Amplification. There is no right or wrong. That raspiness helps it cut through in a mix. So one of the first things I do with the AFS100 model is turn down the bright cap a bit. De la litera la Cuvnt inscripii ebraice n opere de art cu tematica Cretin din Europa Linda Saskia Menczel If youre wanting a show-stopping guitar amp then the Buxom Betty is an expensive, but excellent choice. If anything it should be linear. When Friedman began building his own amps, he . May 16, 2008. This reduces the signal level substantially and lessens the amount of blocking distortion.". There is a treble peaker on the Output pot. ", [before firmware 19.02 for the Axe-Fx III] "The JMP-1 tone controls have more range than the actual preamp. It is separate from the tone stack and located later in the gain stages. Theyre much easier to play and highly saturated. Friedman is an amp legend who has been been building high-end guitar amps for more than two decades - we joined him to learn more about his design process and working with some of the biggest . ", "The controls on the Badger are a bit confusing. This results in the amp sounding more open and smoother. ", "Similar to Plexi 50W High 1 except the second triode stage has a 0.68uF cathode bypass capacitor. When you hit the note there's this blast of high end that rapidly decays so it has an almost vocal quality. Tone stack effectively has fat switch on. ", "Don't be afraid to turn the bass all the way down or the treble all the way up. Camerons are pretty much wide open. ", "Those amps are all designed to get their character from power amp distortion. Changing it to pre would put it before the buffer. Well-known member May 18, 2021 #4 Top Shelf all the way. Despite it's name, DV is just an EQ. ", "This is a tighter version of the popular FAS Modern model with a 5150-style bass boost in the tone stack. All of the saturated, complex harmonic overtones are still lurking inside, as well as the AC30-like cleans. We earn a commission if you make a purchase, at no additional cost to you. I had to increase the Mid control on the model to about 5 to match the amp which indicates the mid pot on the amp was greater than spec. ", "The Treble control in a Chieftain is actually a "Preamp Presence" control, similar to the Presence control in a Dual Rectifier in Modern mode. It's not part of the tone stack. The bright cap in Marshalls can be very bright and harsh. The models assume the Overdrive Volume is at maximum. A lot of people like this sound though. Other modelers use static waveshapers. The larger cap smooths out the distortion. ", "Super 6G4 is a Brownface Fender Super. It makes me think (this is probably key, but yes, believe) the amp will perform better, be more durable, easier to service, and possibly even sound better. The amp is much more abrupt since it uses linear taper (should use 'S'-taper). Now also available: Friedman Guitars, Pedals & Essentials. Firmware 19.02 and later for the Axe-Fx III: Added JMPRE-1 Output EQ type to Amp block. ", "That amp exhibits a lot of blocking distortion (in the phase inverter) due to its design. This video includes shots of downtown Detroit, including the community-based art installation the Heidelberg project and , Motor City Guitar in Waterford, MI, which is owned by Daves childhood best friend. The problem with the design is that the drive control is located between the 3rd and 4th gain stages. Decrease its Gain until the desired scoop is achieved. Some had 47K off the 8-ohm tap. Splawns don't have enough compression. One way to deal with it is to decrease the Input Trim and increase the Input Drive. That will make it somewhat flat but you still have the bright cap on the drive and the bandpass between the preamp and power amp. ", "Just finished matching this modded 65 Bassman that Dweezil sent me. Also note that this amp suffers from extreme blocking distortion at or near maximum gain. They are designed to be run loud and the brightness decreases as the MV is increased. You can simulate this using the Input Trim knob. Hard amp to play though. This is the Arrendondo Mod. It's a separate presence network at the output of the last stage. Dave Friedman is the man behind the signature tones of rock icons Eddie Van Halen, Steve Stevens and Jerry Cantrell. As expected the models are extremely accurate. The model defaults the Depth to match this. ", "The actual amp has no grid stopper resistor on the second stage and therefore has LOTS of blocking distortion. Input gain on 10 o clock, gain on 2 o clock is a 70s /80s lead tone, put the input level up to 2 o click and it's a very sustained lead tone or a very modern heavy rhythm tone. ", "I have a really good SLO-100. ", (about the Drive knob) "Our reference amp has a linear taper pot so the behavior is very abrupt. Implementing second-order filters in a real tube amp is difficult and costly so is rarely seen. ", "They call HRM "Hot Rubber Monkey" but what it really means is "Hot Rod Marshall"." ", "C45 is a treble boost on the input. It refers to the circa of the design. Gain measures spot-on and A/B testing sounds identical. Tone stacks are almost always post-distortion. ", (about fuzzy lows) "That's what those amps do. This is the amp used on Dire Straits eponymous album. The key to JCM800's is to crank the MV to overcome the brightness of the preamp. Friedman probably realized this and that's why there's no bright cap on the BE as the BE is very similar to the Atomica. Screwed around a little with the tube bias points until it had the right balance of harmonics and called it a day. It's a really cool amp. It sounds way better than most 5150s for some reason which is a good thing for you guys. It biases the stage much too cold for my tastes. Before we go into details of our favorite choices, were going, beginning with an overview of the Friedman Amps we have selected to investigate. ", "I used a Triaxis for, shoot, I dunno, over a decade before designing the Axe-Fx. Most amps use an audio taper pot. After 7 the treble increases rapidly. I had a live show I did with the Bogner recorded and its one of my favorite shows (for tone) I have had recorded. You lose the cathode follower compression and the high source resistance of the plate alters the tone stack frequency response. ", Earlier version of the amp with different component values, a little more aggressive than the regular model, "If you want more clarity in the low mids () reduce Negative Feedback. I was working on the Savage model and accidentally used the input stage from an SLO100. "I begrudgingly dragged the amp out of storage today (as it weighs a metric ton) and repeated the measurements and did some A/B tests. The Pull Deep switch engages a large cathode cap on the final triode stage. If you prefer your amps biased cold, then reduce the bias parameter to taste. ", SV Bass 1: Fractal Audio's model prior to the change in firmware Ares 2.05 and later, SV Bass 2: channel one of a 1970 Ampeg SVT with 6550 power tubes and the midrange switch in position 3, "The original Shiva models were based on a borrowed amp. In 2017, Fridmann became the director for the Western New York Alumni Drum and Bugle Corps, where he plays the bass drum. I would say it's a very functional layout and fair job, but I miss some attention to detail I can see in other similar priced amps (Germino, Metropoulos). ", "The Two Rock is the most unique amp I've ever modeled. When G3 came out the models were accurate but Fredrik contacted me and said something like "ahhhhh, I loved the old Recto model". When the grid conducts it shifts the bias point and in those old amps it can shift so much that the tube goes into cutoff prematurely. So it's the front end of an SLO100 with the back end of a Savage. Simple circuits with minimal frequency shaping. The problem with most cathode biased Class A amps is, 1: they aren't really Class A (more like hot Class AB) and 2: They go into Class B operation when they are overdriven. The AFD100 amp that Marshall produced years later (that was supposed to be a #34 copy) has nowhere near the amount of treble boost and has a huge snubber cap on the PI (which rolls off the treble). The gain staging, overdrive voicing and output stage are night and day to ANYTHING Mesa, any owner of the real amp would attest to that. A newcomer to the scene of boutique-style, small-sized amps from Friedman is the Runt-50. ", "They had no Master Volumes so people rarely got the Drive past 3.00 since it would melt your face. ", [before firmware 19.02 for the Axe-Fx III] Engage the Bright switch for the Bright channel, "Based on a 1959 Fender Twin Amp. With my Suhr it's much too bright because that's a very bright guitar. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Where are Friedman amplifiers made? ", Boosted for more gain and high-frequency emphasis, "The secret of the Chieftain is the split cathode bias. ", "That's how our reference amps work. While the real amp has a six-position Tone switch, the model has a continuously variable tone control. For the money, you could opt for amps with many more features but the simplicity of the Buxom Betty is perhaps the best thing about it. However, you'd be surprised that a Twin isn't nearly as clean as you think. He has been modding, repairing, building amps for nearly three decades and is responsible for the signature tones of some of the worlds best rock icons such as Steve Stevens and Eddie Van Halen. () It's a hand-wired version and that can lead to this type of sound as the parasitics cause boosting of the very high frequencies when the amp is driven hard. This gives the amp a lot more gain so it's not surprising you're getting breakup at around 1.5. I just tuned it by ear. They require a high level of skill and a timely amount of labor (often taking eight times longer to complete than a printed circuit board), which is accounted for with their retail value. Negative feedback linearizes the amp and reduces the crossover distortion (at the expense of gain). But when you try to cram more channels and a bunch of voicing switches, maybe a boost, an fx loop, power scaling etc into it then it really should be a well executed PCB. ", [19.02 and later for the Axe-Fx III] "Updated 59 Bassguy and 5F8 Tweed models to include both Drive controls. ", "The Ruby Rocket is not the same as an actual Trainwreck Rocket. ", "Real world, it has the same amount of actual gain as the Triptik. ", (Def Leppard) "The amp model you are looking for is "JMPre-1 OD1". Modern AC30's don't have this flaw. ", "The schematic shows a 2.2 nF coupling cap off the first stage but the actual amp has a 4.7 nF. ", (fuzzy lows) "That's what those amps do. My JJ could be made on the moon for all I care =D. ", "They are very dark amp when used with the matching 16-ohm cabinet. Some had 100K off the 8-ohm tap and some even had 47K off the 16-ohm tap! Dave Friedman's extensive knowledge and pursuit of tonal superiority inspired him to develop his own series of production amplifiers under the name Friedman Amplification. With every aspect of the amp being so carefully checked, theres little you could find wrong upon receiving your amp. ", "A DR is numbered 1-10 so 3 on a DR is around 2.2 on the Axe-Fx. Some cabs you might like to try with that amp model: Factory 2 #97 2x12 RECTO V60 57 OH, Factory 2 #995 4x12 UBER V30 57 OFF-AXIS, Factory 2 #530 4x12 BRIT 70s GB 121 I.". ", Overdrive channel, Rhythm mode, 1st gear ("Plexi"), Overdrive channel, Rhythm mode, 2nd gear ("hot-rodded JCM 800"), Overdrive channel, Rhythm mode, 3rd gear ("super hot-rodded 800"), "The reason Splawns sound weird is because the tone stack is plate driven. The impedance ratio is about twice that of other amps. To simulate this increase the Negative Feedback. Of course the power amp adds to the harmonic content, but it adds very little overdrive. So AC20 EF86 Bass model would be the Bass/Treble switch in the Bass position, the switch on the back in EF86 position and then the Bright switch on the model is the Sun/Moon switch on the amp. ", "Some amps have a fixed depth circuit, e.g. The model is based, naturally, on the amazing sounding one. Dave is going to build me one. The commutative property is where A x B = B x A. ", "The AB165 uses 7025 preamp tubes (which are relabeled 12AX7). ", "I modeled the Super with V1 pulled as most people pull V1 so the amp has more grunt. With a single-ended power amp with negative feedback the gain doesn't change much as you change the operating point, hence the tremolo effect is subtle. 20-watt, EL84 powered, single channel head or 1x12 combo based on its 40-watt predecessor, but still delivers the signature British tone Friedman has become known for. ", "Another caveat when comparing amps: many times the knobs aren't "centered". 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