As per the original post, I was reallylooking for suggestions of small tweaks and mods that may offer improvements. Are you talking about the econowave? SD SCM BL TM 11.88 You can use some driver attenuation calculators online. This combination has actually developed a cult following on the Klipsch Forums thanks to its incredible performance throughout its full range of sound. I must save money. Read the full review and see the winners at the link. Given the rather large disparity between the listed xmax of the two drivers and the fact that I have seentwo numbers quoted for the K-33 (one being roughly half the other), doesit seemlikely that 8.2mm is a peak to peak reading and 4mm is the correctxmax? 80% indica/ 20% sativa Larry OG x Grand Daddy Purple 7-8 weeks flowering time, 60% indica/ 40% sativa Triangle Kush x Animal Mints 7-9 weeks flowering time, 65% indica/ 35% sativa Gorilla Glue#4 x Platinum Kush 8-9 weeks flowering time, 70% indica/ 30% sativa Cookies n Cream x Secret weapon 65 days flower, 50% indica/ 50% indica Frisian Dew x DucksFoot 8-9 weeks flowering *specially bred to do great outdoors, 60% indica/ 40% sativa Gellati x Kush Mintz 8-9 weeks flowering time, 80% indica/ 20% sativa Girl Scout Cookies x Grandaddy Purple 8-9 weeks flowering, 50% indica/ 50% sativa Zkittles x Gelato 8-9 weeks flowering time, 85% indica/ 15% sativa Girl Scout Cookies x Pink Panties 7-8 weeks flowering time, 100% indica Hindu Kush x Purple Afgani 7-8 weeks flowering time, 50% indica/ 50% sativa Fruity Pebbles OG x Grape Pie 10-12 weeks flowering time, 55%sativa/ 45% indica exact genetics are unknown 8-9 weeks flowering time, 50% indica/ 50% sativa Alien Cookies x Miracle15 8-9 weeks flowering time, Add a footnote if this applies to your business, Hidden valley parkway, Corona, California 92882, United States. Can anyone please comment, or better still provide images showingthe internals of their La Scala and how these things are dealt with? Clones will ALWAYS be rooted and healthy. Designed and engineered with pride in Indianapolis. My rule for best sound from a horn is bigger is better. 6" minimum, but often taller. Nelson Pass likes and used full range speakers a lot and Passlabs sells a conventional cone speaker but he also just bought a new horn speaker too. Its design will depend on what woofer you are using and its excursion. I am sticking closely to the stock look using 18mm plywood. Post in the comments below! Your previous content has been restored. work. A Design Masterpiece The La Scala AL5 mixes contemporary and classic design. AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. This is a new website, but we are not new at cloning. Come join the discussion about home audio/video, TVs, projectors, screens, receivers, speakers, projects, DIYs, product reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I've built some La Scala clone cabinets and have gathered up most of the internals, with the exception of the Mid Horns and Drivers. I've heard nothing but positive things about them. Hall of Fame for its impressive sound and historical significance. Dayton Audio H812 1" Exponential Horn 100x60 2-Bolt The bass horn is too short (no deep bass) and the side walls vibrate at high levels. The La Scala is composed of two stacked sections. Klipsch offers cinema subwoofers that are perfect for Dolby Atmos bass management and perfectly match our mains. While he loved the way the La Scalas sounded, he was looking for more low-end. These are the dual woofer versions, with the crossover boards built by Matt G. They are very large. If you are crossing those mains over properly to a sub i would go Kappa 15C. JavaScript is disabled. I absoulty love my La Scalas. RMS NS/M 2.3037 I want to make a true sub but using something very similar to the bottom section of the LaScala. Van Kasteren is a huge fan of Klipsch horn loudspeakers. About a year ago, he purchased a pair of heavily used (loved) La Scala Industrial speakers from 1993, which required restoration. Wattage 150rms. Stephanie S. said: I am no longer a patient due to personal financial issues, but I, Wellness Medical Clinic & Thyroid Treatment Center, JoAnn G. said: This is definitely a long over due review . Maybe they would send out bogus info, but that wouldn't sem to benefit them very much. Clones are kept fed on a full nutrient regiment, with water at a 5.8 ph, under 18 hours a day light. Add a sub and you should be good to go. Yes, I noticed that also. Klipsch R-51PM Powered Bookshelf Speakers AUTHORIZED-DEALER. VAS LTRS 301.66 I want cheap speakers for this project because the speakers is for my company non for my home. Look for this badge to when searching for Certified Heritage Dealers. You can post now and register later. You should be able to find photos on here of most of what you mentioned. You cannot paste images directly. I'll be converting the top hat into the ported section instead of building a stand for it. I believe you can order spacers for the woofer probably from parts express,or you can make your own. . Detailed drawings were prepared for the cabinet shop who completed my material cuts. You will need to make a jig for your tablesaw in order to do the 60 degree cuts where the dog house comes to a point. A new pair of Klipsch La Scalas are $12,000 new. Security Center. 725. We have been providing clones in bulk for large operations, but now are opening up to recreational growers. One doghouse is already finished, but no pics yet. I found these details from a web search comparing the two woofers: RE - K-33 - 3.39ohms - Kappa 3.68ohms, FS - K-33 - 34.46Hz - Kappa 31Hz, LE - K-33 - 0.96 - Kappa 0.88m H, MMS - K-33 - 78.59g - Kappa 77g, QM - K-33 - 7.39 - Kappa 10.14, CMS - K-33 - 0.2714mm/N - Kappa 0.35mm/N, QE - K-33 - 0.410 - Kappa 0.25, QT - K-33 - 0.390 - Kappa 0.25, VAS - K-33 - 301.66 LTRS - Kappa 329.9 LTRS, XMAX - K-33 - 8.20mm - Kappa 2.4mm, SD - K-33 - 889.59cm2 - Kappa 856.3cm2, BL - K-33 - 11.88 TM - Kappa 14.7 TM, EBP - K-33 - 84.4 - Kappa 124, SPL - K-33 - 96.6dB - Kappa 98.1dB, Wattage - K-33 - 150rms - Kappa 450rms. 24 watching. 102-103dB sensitivity though. How would Igo about making these changes?? Klipsch. Copyright 2022 Clones 2 Grow - All Rights Reserved. The doghouse veneer is cherry and the walls are walnut finished with tung oil. Absolutely stunning recreation! A great experience for everyone. I'm a horn guy, but I've heard direct radiators with real dynamics. www.billfitzmaurice.com www.billfitzmaurice.info/forum devnull Midrange Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 391 #14 K400 is awful. On its surface, the Klipsch Forte IV appears almost unchanged from its predecessor (footnote 1), and the IV's specifications are identical to those of the III. And only keep the best! For comparison my DR280, also a W horn, has a 3 foot path length. The only thing I know for sure is they will not be done in an OEM finish. Now Available: Tech Talk Podcast with Scott Wilkinson, Episode 19 Click here for details. I am located in St. Louis, MO and can offer a sit in to listen to them before purchase if you would like. Well, at least I know they won't come unglued like most Klipsch. Are there any minor tweaks thatla scala owners havecarried out where the consensus is an overall improvement? There are 1st order crossover calculators online you can use. Type AA crossover, CT125 tweeter, Atlas PD-5VH mid range CD, CW1526 woofer and OEM K-400 mid horn. We rotate the strains that are in mass production, and the others are available in small numbers, they are changing every couple months. The Tuba HT path length is eleven feet. Having now almost finished accumulating the drivers and horns for my La Scala clone project, I am wondering about the smaller details of the la scala, such as the internal wadding, driver/horn support brackets, crossover mounting etc. During this weekend I founded in Italy a pair of Eminence Gamma 15A-2 for a very good price, very cheap: the Eminence catologue says that they are good for horn loaded box but for a box like Klipsch La Scala? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. But, yeah, there are lots of things you can do and then there's a point of diminishing returns; just all depends on what you're after. The top bottom and both side walls are 1 1/2" MDF. I over simplified this because it gets complicated and confusing. FS HZ 34.46 The LaScala path is about 2.6 feet, that's why it doesn't have a very good low end. tarponater Premium Member Joined Jan 10, 2018 1,259 Posts Would be interesting to compare with originals. The La Scala is in the SoundStage! I'm using original K-77Mtweeters, K-55V mids with K401 horns and Eminence Kappa 15C woofers, plus DIY build Type A crossovers. That short Xmax of the Kappa 15C will give you trouble. Will you conduct measurements and post res for us please? RE OHMS 3.39 If you run the Klipsch La Scalas they are quite different sounding IMO. Also used them with Stax headphones. There is for the new La Scala, S1 is bigger, but not for the old box. Apparently Klipsch isn't a fan of bracing, so they aren't too complicated. One doghouse is already finished, but no pics yet. The panels have to run through the saw vertical with the blade set at 30 degrees. Will the Klipsch La Scala be a good match for an Aleph5, or will I never get te amp "quite" enough for the high sensitivity of these speakers (104 db/1 watt)?? I'll be using all Crites components except for the K400 mid horn that I'm getting from Facebook. Quality clones from the source, we are not resale. I'm also doing the ported bass bin mod. You could go all in and try to copy the correct sub for all Klipsch from the La Scalas to Jubilees, the KPT-1802. tarponater Premium Member It can also be used with any CornScala implementation that allows a 450 Hz crossover and uses the K33 or K33 clone woofer driver. Paste as plain text instead, I have LaScala's and I have tried many different crossovers and a simple 1st order crossover will work fine. One of the first changes van Kasteren made was to change out the dbx active crossover for an Electro Voice DX38 active crossover, based on what he had seen from Klipsch engineer Roy Delgado. 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